Valerie Weiss I don't find this hopeful or progressive. A woman in a man's role and spouting a man's speech about men as creators and the ridiculous and childish and destrurctive notion of a male creator and of Eve being pulled out of Adam's ______. In the face of everything we know about our natural selves and world including the damage to women throughout history with such ideas.

The inability of women and men to protect themselves each other and their communities with this infintile premise starts from this destructive and false frame of reference in creation. It may be even more destructive that a woman preaches the message..

Though I feel a strong connection to the original families and heritage of my Jewish lineage, and while many of the tenants and holidays celebrtate and honor women and nature, the basic premise and hommage paid to a "God," does anything but.

We are broken from the start unless we go back and rewrite for an adult congregation and people the story of creation of and by all or many, in real and natural and adult terms.

Nor do I find quitting that unresolved battle between men and women and men and nature evidence of strength or resolve. The answer is not to walk the walk or talk the talk of men. It is to become fully evolved and empowered women and to express ourselves and the world in that distinct voice.

As long as religions work from a frame of reference of this childish and detrimental beleif of the male "God," and his son---- the rest is at best a bandaid and lip service. Not progressive.

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